Making time for each other

By Rebecca Plant

Karen & Wayne Phillip

When it comes to doing business, Karen and Wayne Phillip are not on their first rodeo.

In their lives BEFORE they started their now operation Virtual Hypnotherapy, they ran swim schools, pre-school facilities and a face-to-face therapeutic clinic.  Karen worked in the corporate world. And Wayne also spent time as a school teacher.

At first, the world of small business was all a bit crazy for them.  Wayne was just out of the world of education and they were both in a new relationship world, juggling the needs of six children between them … All teenagers. Eek! But as Karen puts it, their decision to ‘uprgrade to one another’ was totally worth it.

Needless to say, they were busy.  And, when the wait list for Karen’s services in clinical hypnotherapy stretched out to months, Wayne saw a gap in the market that would mean they could support more people and leverage Karen’s time.

They seem to have the juggle sorted … but as Wayne tells me, it’s because he lets Karen think she’s the boss.

In today’s episode, we talk about:

  • The challenges of carving out time for one another in a heavily committed schedule
  • What happens when you have very different ways of working
  • The formula they learnt early on that means they stay intimate.

It’s a fun conversation that draws on wisdom and patience, and highlights how beneficial regular honouring of your other half can be.

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About the Author

Rebecca is the Co-Founder and CEO of The Institute for Couples in Business. Bec is also trusty wife to husband and business partner Ed, and mum to Samuel, 4, and Charles, 2. For the past seven years Bec has been working with business owners, and her Super Powers include making complex problems simple, creating strong connections, and motivating teams by building kick-arse culture. Bec is also author of #1 best-seller Lead-The-Ship and hosts popular podcast Boardrooms & Bedrooms.